A useful metaphor for analyzing political actions is the “duck test.” That is, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck … it probably is a duck. So it is useful to examine the tenets of “democratic socialism” as espoused by the Democratic Socialists of America.
Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically -- to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few.
To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy so that ordinary Americans can participate in the many decisions that affect our lives.
Democracy and socialism go hand in hand. All over the world, wherever the idea of democracy has taken root, the vision of socialism has taken root as well—everywhere but in the United States.
The idea that the collective wisdom of the masses can be used to make beneficial “democratic” public policies that will benefit society is a basic fallacy.
- Human nature has provided a series of immutable rules which govern much of what man is and what man does. These rules appear to be genetically encoded to insure the survival of the species.
- Man is divided into four groups: leaders, opinion-makers, followers and the apathetic.
- The leadership of political entities always believes that there is some enlightened person or persons who understand nature, man and society and who are destined by birth, strength. education or amassed assets to govern over the masses. You see this in tribal organizations, religious organizations, political organizations – in fact, in any organization you can name.
- Pure democracy – one man, one vote is an ideal that may have adverse and unintended consequences. Consider the people who democratically elected Hitler to office.
- Corruption is endemic in any society, where people will do or say anything to achieve their own goals.
- There is no proof to the theory that conventional wisdom is always right and contrarians are always disrupters. Society was advanced by disrupters who failed to abide by the status quo and took drastic – and sometimes illegal – actions of their own.. Consider the founding fathers who committed treason against the crown in order to form this more perfect union.
The idea that the economy and society should be run democratically to meet public needs and not to make profit for a few mandates that their be no private ownership of property or other assets which might be needed to serve public policy. Or, at the very least, private assets should be under the control of those who govern the people for the people. Our society is based on free market capitalism and the ability of an individual to own and benefit from owning private property.
The government, through imprudent Supreme Court decisions such as Kelo v. City of New London extended the Fifth Amendment Right of the government to take property not for public use, but for a public benefit such as raising tax revenues and/or mitigating urban blight. The idea that the government can take private property from one individual (and pay them a depressed price) and award it to another individual to make a significant profit is just another manifestation of socialism in the United States.
When the socialists speak of radical transformation, they are speaking about repealing free market economics, the rights to private property and the elimination of institutions which favor individuals over the collective. With the socialists firmly in control of the government, human nature dictates that it will only be a matter of time until the so-called democratic socialist regimes becomes a totalitarian one. One that represses the rights of the individual and mandates that they serve the collective. Over time, enlightened rulers become a dictatorship in which only the dictator’s cronies and the bureaucracy lives well at the expense of those who are expected to serve us.
Oh no! That’s not us … <my comments in brackets>
Q. Doesn't socialism mean that the government will own and run everything?
Democratic socialists do not want to create an all-powerful government bureaucracy. But we do not want big corporate bureaucracies to control our society either. Rather, we believe that social and economic decisions should be made by those whom they most affect.
<<This is a bald-faced lie. Consider Barack Obama’s Executive Branch as they try to amass more and more power and circumvent Congress in the process. Perhaps the consequences of democratic socialism can be seen in Chicago, Illinois, the city that is run by people who believe in social democracy (or black liberation theology). Bankrupt and increasing dependent on ever increasing taxes on their citizens so that the people’s labor councils – the unions – can be made whole and immune from the consequences of the decaying city which affects every resident.>>
<<Social and economic decisions are made by those whom they most affect. In a capitalist system, we vote with our dollars and our support of institutions. Those products, companies or institutions which fail to fulfill a real need are ignored and end up in closing their doors.>>
<<There has never been a modern society where the ruling class sought less power and wanted to democratize the process.>>
Today, corporate executives who answer only to themselves and a few wealthy stockholders make basic economic decisions affecting millions of people. Resources are used to make money for capitalists rather than to meet human needs. We believe that the workers and consumers who are affected by economic institutions should own and control them.
<<Again, in a sense, shareholders and customers of companies do exert control. They can sell their stock, stop using the company’s goods and services, and mount a boycott of egregious actions. In essence, people have the power to control companies. >>
Social ownership could take many forms, such as worker-owned cooperatives or publicly owned enterprises managed by workers and consumer representatives. Democratic socialists favor as much decentralization as possible.
<<We can plainly see how these worker-company initiatives have played out. The unions, representing the workers, and the executives, representing the shareholders, have combined to destroy the railroad industry, the airline industry, the automobile industry, the clothing industry, the steel industry. All with the complicit help of corrupt politicians in return for campaign contributions and voter support. European socialist unions have brought near bankruptcy and social chaos to everything they affect.>>
<<If democratic socialists favor as much decentralization as possible, why are they always consolidating power whenever possible and engaging in central planning?>>
While the large concentrations of capital in industries such as energy and steel may necessitate some form of state ownership, many consumer-goods industries might be best run as cooperatives.
<<Does anyone recognize the big lie in the above statement? If energy and steel enterprises were productive, cost-efficient, properly managed and profitable, private investors would be flocking to these areas to invest their money in the hopes of making a return – and eventually improve the quality of their individual lives. Not to see the profits, if any, dissipated among those who will not raise a finger to help themselves, let alone the collective. If solar and wind power were cost-efficient, reliable and sustainable, why do they need government subsidies and legislative mandates for users with no alternatives to pay higher prices There is no need for state ownership of utilities. Want to see a corrupt boondoggle, look at the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power. Corrupt practice versus. corrupt practice of the investor-owned power company. No difference, except for government meddling. >>
Democratic socialists have long rejected the belief that the whole economy should be centrally planned. While we believe that democratic planning can shape major social investments like mass transit, housing, and energy, market mechanisms are needed to determine the demand for many consumer goods.
<<A contradictory statement and a lie as well. The democratic socialists want power, so must exert greater control over every aspect of everyone’s lives. >>
The relationship between democrats and democratic socialism …
Q Aren't you a party that's in competition with the Democratic Party for votes and support?
No, we are not a separate party. Like our friends and allies in the feminist, labor, civil rights, religious, and community organizing movements, many of us have been active in the Democratic Party. We work with those movements to strengthen the party’s left wing, represented by the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
The process and structure of American elections seriously hurts third party efforts. Winner-take-all elections instead of proportional representation, rigorous party qualification requirements that vary from state to state, a presidential instead of a parliamentary system, and the two-party monopoly on political power have doomed third party efforts. We hope that at some point in the future, in coalition with our allies, an alternative national party will be viable. For now, we will continue to support progressives who have a real chance at winning elections, which usually means left-wing Democrats.
In their own words, they have infiltrated the democrat party!
How many radicals can you spot in this list?
Co-Chairs: Keith Ellison, Raúl Grijalva; Vice Chairs: Tammy Baldwin, Judy Chu, William “Lacy” Clay, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Chellie Pingree; Whip: Hank Johnson; Senate Member: Bernie Sanders; House Members: Karen Bass, Xavier Becerra, Earl Blumenauer, Suzanne Bonamici, Corrine Brown, Michael Capuano, Andre Carson, Donna Christensen, Hansen Clarke, Yvette Clarke, Emanuel Cleaver, David Cicilline, Steve Cohen, John Conyers, Elijah Cummings, Danny Davis, Peter DeFazio, Rosa DeLauro, Donna Edwards, Sam Farr, Chaka Fattah, Bob Filner, Barney Frank, Marcia Fudge, Luis Gutierrez, Janice Hahn, Maurice Hinchey, Mazie Hirono, Rush Holt, Michael Honda, Jesse Jackson, Jr., Eddie Bernice Johnson, Marcy Kaptur, Dennis Kucinich, Barbara Lee, John Lewis, David Loebsack, Ben Ray Lujan, Carolyn Maloney, Ed Markey, Jim McDermott, James McGovern, Brad Miller, George Miller, Gwen Moore, Jim Moran, Jerrold Nadler, Eleanor Holmes Norton, John Olver, Frank Pallone, Ed Pastor, Jared Polis, Charles Rangel, Laura Richardson, Lucille Roybal-Allard, Linda Sanchez, Jan Schakowsky, Jose Serrano, Louise Slaughter, Pete Stark, Bennie Thompson, John Tierney, Nydia Velazquez, Maxine Waters, Mel Watt, Peter Welch, and Lynn Woolsey <Source>
If you are looking for a list of politicians which includes the most corrupt, racist, pandering members of Congress – here it is in a nice neat list. Click on any members name to be taken to their web page.
HA HA HA!
Why are there no models of democratic socialism?
Although no country has fully instituted democratic socialism, the socialist parties and labor movements of other countries have won many victories for their people. We can learn from the comprehensive welfare state maintained by the Swedes, from Canada’s national health care system, France’s nationwide childcare program, and Nicaragua’s literacy programs.
<<Right, and these societies are pumping our innovative new product and services that are changing the world. Truth is that they are collapsing upon themselves as there is no model for a nation to sell its products and services to another nation with little or no profit incentive. The world is not a giant barter agreement.>>
Lastly, we can learn from efforts initiated right here in the US, such as the community health centers created by the government in the 1960s. They provided high quality family care, with community involvement in decision-making.
<<The truth is that these organizations were little more than government-run bureaucracies with input from liberal do-gooders. That they provided high quality family care is a lie – as you can visit any of these health centers and see massive waiting lines and encounter substandard care.>>
I could continue, but it is pointless because they have adopted George Orwell’s political-speak where up is down, right is wrong, wrong is right … and everything is renamed and redefined to serve their corrupt purposes.
Bottom line …
It’s a duck – Obama and his fellow travelers are tools of international socialism – or, put another way, useful idiots of our traditional Marxist and Communist enemies who would like to capture the productivity of the United States to feed their own people and make themselves the leaders of the world.
The sad fact is that there are many elected officials and government bureaucrats with membership in the DSA. They very same people who demonized Joseph McCarthy who claimed that the government was infiltrated by our enemies. He may have been a loathsome individual, a corrupt politician, but, in the final analysis, he was absolutely correct. Our government has been infiltrated with subversives and traitors whose allegiance is to foreign sovereigns or a bankrupt political ideology. Unfortunately, Obama and his black liberation theology background makes me suspect that international socialism is the puppet-master pulling the Manchurian Candidate’s strings. We have virtually no information about the man or his associates that he did not provide himself – and to question him is to be called a racist.
“Nullius in verba.”-- take nobody's word for it!
“Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance.”-- George Bernard Shaw
“Progressive, liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democratic Socialist -- they are all COMMUNISTS.”
“The key to fighting the craziness of the progressives is to hold them responsible for their actions, not their intentions.” – OCS "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius “A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves, and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” -- George Orwell “Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt." (The people gladly believe what they wish to.) ~Julius Caesar “Describing the problem is quite different from knowing the solution. Except in politics." ~ OCS
“The key to fighting the craziness of the progressives is to hold them responsible for their actions, not their intentions.” – OCS
"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves, and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” -- George Orwell
“Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt." (The people gladly believe what they wish to.) ~Julius Caesar
“Describing the problem is quite different from knowing the solution. Except in politics." ~ OCS