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Obamacare: another staged town hall meeting to tell you what Obama wants you to hear ...

I just finished reading the “REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT IN HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM TOWN HALL that was held at Portsmouth High School Portsmouth, New Hampshire. Pretty much the Obama talking points delivered in another staged town hall setting. The highlights …

Let’s demonize the insurance companies to which the government has ceded control over the healthcare delivery system …

“It's the story of hardworking Americans who are held hostage by health insurance companies that deny them coverage, or drop their coverage, or charge fees that they can't afford for care that they desperately need.”

Does anybody note that it is unlikely that the government will be able to manage their own healthcare initiative and will use the insurance companies to implement the plan – much as they do Medicare and other medical programs?

Obama claims it is wrong, yet is own proposed system will do exactly the very same thing …

I believe it is wrong. It is bankrupting families and businesses, and that's why we are going to pass health insurance reform in 2009.”

How many Americans do not need, have or want healthcare and how many illegal aliens are included in the “no coverage” counts?

“I don't have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don't have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

So Obama says 46 million people do not have health coverage and the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office says after the implementation of the proposal about 36 million would remain uninsured. So, in essence, we are disrupting our entire healthcare system which serves 85% of the population for a system which would insure an additional 10 million uninsured citizens at a cost of $1 TRILLION dollars – and at least 1/3 of those uninsured might be illegal aliens.

May 12, 2003: “It is frequently stated that about 40 million Americans lack health insurance. That estimate overstates the number of people who are uninsured all year. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that between 21 million and 31 million people were uninsured for all of 1998, the most recent year for which reliable comparative data are available. Since then, the number who are uninsured all year probably has not changed substantially, given historical trends. Furthermore, the uninsured population is fluid, with many people gaining and losing coverage. Between half and two-thirds of the people who experienced a period of time without insurance in 1998, for example, had coverage for other portions of the year.” <Source

June 15, 2009: “Effects on Insurance Coverage. Under current law, the number of nonelderly residents (those under age 65) with health insurance coverage will grow from about 217 million in 2010 to about 228 million in 2019, according to CBO’s estimates. Over that same period, the number of nonelderly residents without health insurance at any given point in time will grow from approximately 50 million people to about 54 million people—constituting about 19 percent of the nonelderly population. Because the Medicare program covers nearly all legal residents over the age of 65, our analysis has focused on the effects of proposals on the nonelderly population.

According to the preliminary analysis, once the proposal was fully implemented, the number of people who are uninsured would decline to about 36 million or 37 million, representing about 13 percent of the nonelderly population. (Roughly a third of those would be unauthorized immigrants or individuals who are eligible for Medicaid but not enrolled in that program.) <Source>

Does he mention that under Obamacare you will be forced to have health insurance or you will be penalized? Or you employer penalized if it is not offered?

Designed by lobbyists and implemented by government legislation, so who is to blame?

“But it's just as important that we accomplish health insurance reform for the Americans who do have health insurance -- (applause) -- because right now we have a health care system that too often works better for the insurance industry than it does for the American people. And we've got to change that. (Applause.)”

I call bullshit!

“Now, let me just start by setting the record straight on a few things I've been hearing out here -- (laughter) -- about reform. Under the reform we're proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

Excuse me? Under the current system, if your employer chooses your health insurance plan, you must go to doctors that they accept – or get another policy. If your doctor is not willing to accept your insurance coverage, you are out of luck. Nothing will change unless the government mandates every doctor and every facility MUST take their insurance – and that is totalitarianism and the death of free enterprise; not to mention free choice and capitalism.

Without increasing the number of doctors or facilities, how can the present system accommodate millions of newly insured citizens? There are only three answers: ration healthcare, wait in line or do without…

“You will not be waiting in any lines. This is not about putting the government in charge of your health insurance. I don't believe anyone should be in charge of your health insurance decisions but you and your doctor. (Applause.) I don't think government bureaucrats should be meddling, but I also don't think insurance company bureaucrats should be meddling. That's the health care system I believe in. (Applause.)”

Telling some atypical horror stories to scare the folks …

“Now, we just heard from Lori about how she can't find an insurance company that will cover her because of her medical condition. She's not alone. A recent report actually shows that in the past three years, over 12 million Americans were discriminated against by insurance companies because of a preexisting condition. Either the insurance company refused to cover the person, or they dropped their coverage when they got sick and they needed it most, or they refused to cover a specific illness or condition, or they charged higher premiums and out-of-pocket costs. No one holds these companies accountable for these practices.”

Curious: they can accept all afflictions, but they propose to limit the treatments under a “best practices” protocol – definitely dodgy in my opinion …

“Under the reform we're proposing, insurance companies will be prohibited from denying coverage because of a person's medical history. Period. (Applause.) They will not be able to drop your coverage if you get sick. (Applause.) They will not be able to water down your coverage when you need it. (Applause.) Your health insurance should be there for you when it counts -- not just when you're paying premiums, but when you actually get sick. And it will be when we pass this plan. (Applause.)”

But will they drop their coverage the minute you are unemployed or broke? Or when you get older and we need to contain costs by restricting treatment and drugs to those who are statistically likely to benefit from the treatment?

“So this is what reform is about. For all the chatter and the yelling and the shouting and the noise, what you need to know is this: If you don't have health insurance, you will finally have quality, affordable options once we pass reform. (Applause.) If you do have health insurance, we will make sure that no insurance company or government bureaucrat gets between you and the care that you need.”

What if you do not have a job, or a house, or are bankrupt; and you can’t afford the affordable? Do unemployment and welfare programs come with government healthcare? Is that part of the proposal?

The biggest lie – and the biggest danger …

“And we will do this without adding to our deficit over the next decade, largely by cutting out the waste and insurance company giveaways in Medicare that aren't making any of our seniors healthier. (Applause.) Right. (Laughter.)”

If the government were serious about cutting the waste and fraud in Medicare, they would have done it years ago – as their mandated legal responsibility as government regulators. If they are going to collapse the broken, bankrupt Medicare system into this newly proposed system – what about the compact you made with the seniors who have paid into the system all of their working lives?

More bullshit …

“Now, before I start taking questions, let me just say there's been a long and vigorous debate about this, and that's how it should be. That's what America is about, is we have a vigorous debate. That's why we have a democracy. But I do hope that we will talk with each other and not over each other -- (applause) -- because one of the objectives of democracy and debate is, is that we start refining our own views because maybe other people have different perspectives, things we didn't think of.”

The President is a stone cold liar – there has been no long or vigorous debate. How could there be? The legislation is still being written and must be subject to continued modification by Congress – acting on behalf of the industry lobbyists who will assist them in funding their 2010/2012 campaigns and getting out the vote. NO ONE, least of all the President of the United States knows what is in the finished bill – and how many details will be decided by unelected Agency officials and unelected czars as they implement this ill-defined program.

How can you misrepresent that which has not been defined or will produce adverse results if you follow the train of logic in the current draft copy of the healthcare proposal?

“Where we do disagree, let's disagree over things that are real, not these wild misrepresentations that bear no resemblance to anything that's actually been proposed. (Applause.)” 

“Because the way politics works sometimes is that people who want to keep things the way they are will try to scare the heck out of folks and they'll create boogeymen out there that just aren't real. (Applause.)”

Here we have the pot calling the kettle black! Somehow the President’s politics and community organizer tactics are somehow more pure and noble than those of the opposition. The President’s background is based on corrupt Chicago politics and yet he accuses the American public and others of distorting his message?

“So this is an important and complicated issue that deserves serious debate. And we have months to go before we're done, and years after that to phase in all these reforms and get them right. And I know this: Despite all the hand-wringing pundits and the best efforts of those who are profiting from the status quo, we are closer to achieving health insurance reform than we have ever been.”

It this deserves a serious debate, why the hell is everyone trying to rush this through Congress before the actual bill is finished and the American public has a six month chance to read and debate all of the proposals provisions?

Did these organizations sell out their members who would surely receive less money for more work?

We have the American Nurses Association supporting us. (Applause.) We have the American Medical Association on board. (Applause.)

Like AARP has apparently sold out its senior citizen membership …

“We have the AARP on board because they know this is a good deal for our seniors.”

“Well, first of all, another myth that we've been hearing about is this notion that somehow we're going to be cutting your Medicare benefits.  We are not.  AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare, okay?”

Reform, yes! But THIS reform?

“America's doctors and nurses know firsthand how badly we need reform. We have broad agreement in Congress on about 80 percent of what we're trying to do. We have an agreement from the drug companies to make prescription drugs more affordable for seniors. We can cut the doughnut hole in half if we pass reform. (Applause.) We have the AARP on board because they know this is a good deal for our seniors. (Applause.)”

But let's face it, now is the hard part -- because the history is clear -- every time we come close to passing health insurance reform, the special interests fight back with everything they've got. They use their influence. They use their political allies to scare and mislead the American people. They start running ads. This is what they always do.

He admits the government-run Medicare system is unsustainable … so why should we believe that this government-run proposal will produce better results and not devolve into special interest corruption, waste and fraud?

Our deficit will continue to grow because Medicare and Medicaid are on an unsustainable path. Medicare is slated to go into the red in about eight to 10 years. I don't know if people are aware of that. If I was a senior citizen, the thing I'd be worried about right now is Medicare starts running out of money because we haven't done anything to make sure that we're getting a good bang for our buck when it comes to health care. And insurance companies will continue to profit by discriminating against people for the simple crime of being sick. Now, that's not a future I want for my children. It's not a future that I want for the United States of America.”

There he goes again… scaring senior citizens and lying about Medicare. The truth is Medicare is already in the red and the newly-proposed healthcare system will be billions in the hole from day one.

Obama, the community organizer …

“That's what we need to do right now. And I need your help. If you want a health care system that works for the American people -- (applause) -- as well as it works for the insurance companies, I need your help -- knocking on doors, talking to your neighbors. Spread the facts. Let's get this done. (Applause.)”

Another staged event with pre-seeded questions?

“All right, here's how we're going to do this. We do a lot of town hall meetings in New Hampshire, so everybody knows the basic outlines of this thing. If you have a question just raise your hand. There are people with microphones in the audience. I am going to try to go girl-boy-girl-boy, to make sure it's fair. (Laughter.) If I hear only from people who agree with me I'm going to actively ask some folks who are concerned about health care, give them a chance to ask their questions, because I think we've got to make sure that we get out -- surface some of the debates and concerns that people have. Some of them are legitimate. I'm going to try to get through as many questions as I can. But if you can keep your question or comment relatively brief, then I will try to keep my answers relatively brief, okay? (Laughter.)

What does it mean when the questions and the answers are on a TelePrompTer?

Some selected comments …

“Now, one of the things you've been doing in your campaign to change the situation is you've been striving for bipartisanship. I think it's a wonderful idea, but my question is, if the Republicans actively refuse to participate in a reasonable way with reasonable proposals, isn't it time to just say we're going to pass what the American people need and what they want, without the Republicans? (Applause.)”

There was no bipartisanship. The Republicans were locked out of the room and their proposed amendments were not considered. A big lie! What normal citizen stands up and makes a speech like this? Looks like a planted stooge to me!

THE PRESIDENT: Well, let me make a couple of points. First of all, you make a point about Medicare that's very important. I've been getting a lot of letters, pro and con, for health care reform, and one of the letters I received recently, a woman was very exercised about what she had heard about my plan. She says, "I don't want government-run health care. I don't want you meddling in the private marketplace. And keep your hands off my Medicare." (Laughter.) True story.

And so I do think it's important for particularly seniors who currently receive Medicare to understand that if we're able to get something right like Medicare, then there should be a little more confidence that maybe the government can have a role -- not the dominant role, but a role -- in making sure the people are treated fairly when it comes to insurance. (Applause.)

Like the Godfather, we will pull the strings and exact tribute. We will reward our friends and punish our enemies …

Under our proposal, the majority of Americans will still be getting their health care from private insurers. All we want to do is just make sure that private insurers are treating you fairly so that you are not buying something where if you failed to read the fine print, next thing you know, when you actually get sick, you have no coverage.”

“We also want to make sure that everybody has some options. So there's been talk about this public option. This is where a lot of the idea of government takeover of health care comes from. All we want to do is set up a set of options so that if you don't have health insurance or you're underinsured you can have the same deal that members of Congress have, which is they can look at a menu of options -- we're calling it an exchange, but it’s basically just a menu of different health care plans -- and you will be able to select the one that suits your family best.”

I call bullshit – this is a semantic trick: the Congress is exempted from the plan – and the only similarity is that they do have a menu of options. Options you are not likely to see in your program!

And I do think that having a public option as part of that would keep the insurance companies honest, because if they've got a public plan out there that they've got to compete against, as long as it's not being subsidized by taxpayers, then that will give you some sense of what -- sort of a good bargain for what basic health care would be. (Applause.)”

The word “honest” coming from Obama’s mouth is a joke. There can be no competing with an organization that does not have to worry about meeting a payroll or producing profits for its investors. Over time, the “public” option would be priced cheaper and cheaper until all of the

Forget the answers, just look at the staged questions …

Q I saw -- as I was walking in, I saw a lot of signs outside saying mean things about reforming health care. How do kids know what is true, and why do people want a new system that can -- that help more of us?

Mean things? Last time I checked kids don’t vote and are not more capable than their parents of understanding the issues.

Q Good afternoon, Mr. President. Bill Anderson from New Hampshire. In reference to what you just said -- I'm presently under the New Hampshire Medicaid system and I have to take a drug called Lipitor. When I got onto this program they said, no, we're not going to cover Lipitor -- even though I'd been on that pill for probably 10 years, based on the information my doctor feels is right for me. And I had to go through two different trials of other kinds of drugs before it was finally deemed that I was able to go back on the Lipitor through the New Hampshire Medicaid system. So here it is, the Medicaid that you guys are administering and you're telling me that it's good -- but in essence, I'm dealing with the same thing, and you're telling me the insurance companies are doing. Thank you.

Funny. I know about Lipitor and the fact that the drug company that owns the expiring patent has given a generic manufacturer a contract worth many millions of dollars to delay the introduction of the generic version of Lipitor – making them billions of dollars.

“Pfizer bought some extra time for its blockbuster cholesterol drug Lipitor (atorvastatin) by reaching a settlement with Ranbaxy Laboratories delaying the US launch of a generic version of the world's top selling pharmaceutical brand.”

Under the deal, Ranbaxy will gain license to sell generic versions of Lipitor and Caduet, in the US effective November 30, 2011about 20 months after the main patent on atorvastatin is scheduled to expire. (Caduet combines the active ingredients of Lipitor and Norvasc to treat high blood pressure and high cholesterol). Pfizer initially sued to block introduction of a generic Lipitor version until 2016. Sales of Lipitor in 2007 sales were at $12.7 billion – roughly one-fourth of Pfizer's total company sales.”

“Q Good afternoon, Mr. President. I'm Jackie Millet (phonetic) and I'm from Wells, Maine, and my question is, I am presently on Medicare and I do have a supplement. But if something happens to my husband, I lose the supplement. And what will happen? I take a lot of medications. I need a lot -- I've had a lot of procedures. And how will Medicare under the new proposal help people who are going to need things like this?”

THE PRESIDENT: Well, first of all, another myth that we've been hearing about is this notion that somehow we're going to be cutting your Medicare benefits. We are not. AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare, okay? So I just want seniors to be clear about this, because if you look at the polling, it turns out seniors are the ones who are most worried about health care reform. And that's understandable, because they use a lot of care, they've got Medicare, and it's already hard for a lot of people even on Medicare because of the supplements and all the other costs out of pocket that they're still paying.”

You cannot talk out of both sides of your mouth unless you are a politician. A “best practices” approach means that an insurance company will deny payment for potentially poor outcomes and not fund experimental treatments. How is this lady going to take going to mandatory “end of life” counseling and being presented with a living will that might contain a “do not resuscitate order?”

“Right now hospitals, they are not penalized if there are constant readmission rates from patients that have gone through the hospital. If you go to a -- if you go to a car company or a auto shop, if you say, ‘Can I have my car repaired?’ you get your car repaired -- if two weeks later it's broken down again, if you take it back, hopefully they're not going to charge you again for repairing the car. You want them to do it right the first time. And too often we're not seeing the best practices in some of these hospitals to prevent people from being readmitted. That costs a lot of money. So those are the kinds of changes we're talking about.”

Is Obama crazy: people cannot be compared to mechanical cars and hospital readmission rates cannot be controlled that easily. I wonder if he has ever heard of post-procedure complications which are not the fault of the hospital facility or the doctor? I wonder if he knows the full range of side effects in an elderly population – something that is not often studied in drug trials?

“Now, in terms of savings for you as a Medicare recipient, the biggest one is on prescription drugs, because the prescription drug companies have already said that they would be willing to put up $80 billion in rebates for prescription drugs as part of a health care reform package.”

Rebates assume you have already paid the money – or someone has paid the money. Why not lower costs for everyone? If the money is rebated to the government, will it become untraceable cash used to buy votes? For special projects? Nothing like this is contained in the proposed legislation, so how can it be fairly evaluated.

Q Mr. President, you've been quoted over the years -- when you were a senator and perhaps even before then -- that you were essentially a supporter of a universal plan. I'm beginning to see that you're changing that. Do you honestly believe that? Because that is my concern. I'm on Medicare, but I still worry that if we go to a public option, period, that the private companies, the insurance companies, rather than competing -- because who can compete with the government; the answer is nobody. So my question is do you still -- as yourself, now -- support a universal plan? Or are you open to the private industry still being maintained?

Q Fine, thank you. There's a lot of misinformation about how we're going to pay for this health care plan. And I'm wondering how we're going to do this without raising the taxes on the middle class, because I don't want the burden to fall on my parents, and also I'm a college student so --

Q Also I'm looking towards my future with career options and opportunities and I don't want inflation to skyrocket by just adding this to the national debt. So I'm wondering how we can avoid both of those scenarios. (Applause.)

Q Thank you, Mr. President. I've worked in the medical field for about 18 years and seen a lot of changes over those 18 years. I currently work here at the high school as a paraprofessional. I have a little, you know, couple questions about the universal insurance program, which, if I understand you correctly, President Obama, you seek to cover 50 million new people over and above the amount of people that are currently getting health care at this moment.

THE PRESIDENT: It will probably -- I just want to be honest here. There are about 46 million people who are uninsured. And under the proposals that we have, even if you have an individual mandate, probably only about 37-38 million, so somewhere in that ballpark.

Q …  My concern is for where are we going to get the doctors and nurses to cover these? Right now I know that there's a really -- people are not going to school to become teachers to teach the nursing staffs. Doctors have huge capacities; some of them are leaving private to go to administrative positions because of the caseload that they're being made to hold. I really do feel that there will be more demand with this universal health care and no added supply. I also understand that it was to be taken from Medicare, about $500 billion -- correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Q Okay. Also, you know, I'm very, very concerned about the elderly. I don't know if this is also correct, but I understand that a federal health board will sit in judgment of medical procedures and protocols to impose guidelines on all providers -- when to withhold certain types of care -- like, what is the point you get to when we say, I'm sorry that this cannot happen. Thank you very much for letting me ask those questions, Mr. President.

All right, last question, last question right here. This is a skeptic, right?

Q I am a skeptic.


Q Thank you, Mr. President, for coming to Portsmouth. My name is Michael Layon (ph). I'm from Derry, New Hampshire, District 1 in the congressional district. I'm one of the people that turned myself in on the White House Web page the other day for being a skeptic of this bill. I'm proud to have done so.

Turned yourself in? To the White House? Sounds like old-time Russia?

THE PRESIDENT: Before you ask this question, just because you referred to it, can I just say this is another example of how the media ends up just completing distorting what's taken place. What we've said is that if somebody has -- if you get an e-mail from somebody that says, for example, "Obamacare is creating a death panel," forward us the e-mail and we will answer the question that's raised in the e-mail. Suddenly, on some of these news outlets, this is being portrayed as "Obama collecting an enemies list." (Laughter.)

Now, come on, guys. You know, here I am trying to be responsive to questions that are being raised out there --

Q And appreciate it. (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: And I just want to be clear that all we're trying to do is answer questions.

All right, go ahead.

All phony-baloney staged questions – complete with the President’s pre-scripted answers.

Between a Barack and a hard place

The average American citizen now finds himself between a Barack and a hard place. Who to believe when both the government and the private sector are out to screw you – and the government’s regulatory agencies cannot be trusted to detect and prosecute those who are misusing the system and/or to prevent systemic abuse by insurance companies.

Be careful: there is a full-on government-led propaganda plan to engage the mainstream media in progress. The questions are those they want to be asked, and the answers are the ones they want you to hear.

Some full of half-truths, distortions and outright lies. Keep your head up and ears open. Think things through. Read and research the topic. You cannot trust the unions or AARP for honest advice – they have been bought and paid for by the Obama Administration.

Bottom line: make them eat their own dog food – every member of the government must take this plan!

Be well, be safe and take care of yourself and your family first.

-- steve


OneCitizenSpeaking: Saying out loud what you may be thinking …


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The White House - Press Office - Remarks by the President at Town Hall on Health Insurance Reform in Portsmouth, New Hampshire

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