UPDATE: SUSPECT APPEARS TO BE BARRICADED IN BIG BEAR AREA ... MORE INFORMATION AT http://www.onecitizenspeaking.com/2013/02/manhunt-ended-christopher-dorner-cornered-two-shot-in-standoff.html
It appears that a 33 year-old former LAPD Officer who was terminated by the Los Angeles Police Department has gone rogue and is threatening to kill other law enforcement officers until the LAPD admits they made a “wrongful firing” mistake. He is armed and dangerous as he is the prime suspect in killing two innocent victims – one the daughter of the person who unsuccessfully defended him at his police board hearing. The suspect left a long explanation – termed by the authorities to be a “manifesto” – on his Facebook page.
Blue Alert in Progress - February 7, 2013
*THE SUSPECT IS CONSIDERED ARMED AND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS*
A BLUE ALERT HAS BEEN ACTIVATED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES: KERN, SANTA BARBARA, VENTURA, LOS ANGELES, SAN BERNARDINO, ORANGE, RIVERSIDE, SAN DIEGO, AND IMPERIAL.
ON FEBRUARY 7, 2013, AT APPROXIMATELY 0122 HOURS, THE SUSPECT WAS INVOLVED IN MULTIPLE SHOOTINGS WITH MULTIPLE AGENCIES IN THE RIVERSIDE CHP AREA.
THE SUSPECT IS CHRISTOPHER JORDAN DORNER, A 33 YEAR OLD, BLACK, MALE, 6 FEET TALL, 270 POUNDS, WITH BLACK HAIR, BROWN EYES, WITH AN UNKNOWN CLOTHING DESCRIPTION.THE SUSPECT WAS LAST SEEN DRIVING A 2005 BLUE OR GRAY NISSAN TITAN, WITH A CA LICENSE PLATE OF 8D83987 or 7X09131 - THE SUSPECT MAY BE SWITCHING BETWEEN THE TWO LICENSE PLATES.
THE VEHICLE ALSO HAS SKI RACKS ON IT'S ROOF.IF SEEN CONTACT RIVERSIDE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT (951) 787-7911.
Suspect Information:
Name: CHRISTOPHER JORDAN DORNER
CHRISTOPHER JORDAN DORNERAge/Sex: 33 / MALE Race: BLACK/AFRICAN AMERICAN Height: 6 FEET Weight: 270 POUNDS Hair: BLACK Eyes: BROWN Clothing: UNKNOWN Additional: None at this time
Suspect Vehicle Information:
Make: NISSAN Model: TITAN Year: 2005 Color: GRAY License Number: 8D83987 License State: CALIFORNIA Additional: VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH A SKI RACK ON IT'S ROOF
Police are so scared, some are out of control …
Women delivering newspapers in Torrance shot in manhunt for ex-cop
Two women who were shot by Los Angeles police in Torrance early Thursday during a massive manhunt for an ex-LAPD officer were delivering newspapers, sources said. The women, shot in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue, were taken to area hospitals, Torrance police Lt. Devin Chase said. They were not identified. After the shooting, the blue pickup was riddled with bullet holes and what appeared to be newspapers lay in the street alongside.
A second shooting, involving Torrance police officers, occurred about 5:45 a.m. at Flagler Lane and Beryl Street in Torrance. No injuries were reported in that incident. Chase said that in both instances police came across vehicles they thought were similar to the one Dorner is believed to be driving. Neither vehicle was Dorner's. "Now it appears neither of them are directly related," Chase said. "In both of them, officers believed they were at the time." <Source>
In both cases, the police officers should be either terminated, reassigned or extensively re-trained. This type of non-thinking aggressive behavior in any police force is intolerable. It brings back memories of a innocent drunk Long Beach resident playing with a pistol-grip garden nozzle SHOT TO DEATH BY LONG BEACH POLICE WITHOUT EVER BEING CHALLENGED! In that case, the police were hiding and in a position of concealment, never once making their presence known to the drunk man on the porch.
Bottom line …
While this former Officer appears to be suffering from some type of stress-related mental impairment and needs to be brought into custody before more innocent people are killed, let us not overlook the details provided in his “manifesto” and call for an investigation of the LAPD command staff. Just because this former officer is clearly over-the-top, does not mean that some of what he says is not true. As we have seen with the Los Angeles Sheriffs Department, not all is as it seems on the surface and there is a degree of command staff malfeasance and misbehavior.
Let honest, hard-working and dedicated police officers do their jobs. And weed out those who abuse their authority – at all levels.
-- steve
For those wising to read the so-called manifesto, it can be found here.
Law enforcement is America's largest organized crime syndicate ... the public, in general, places far too much confidence in these overcompensated, often unrestrained "legitimized" thugs. Their authority should be severely restrained, and we need to hold each and everyone in law enforcement far more accountable for their actions--while on duty, and in their private lives.
Every citizen ought to be armed, and the various asinine restrictions unconstitutionally enforced upon the public ought to be overturned. No permits. No background checks, no need for a carry permit. Time to take back our rights that so many are willing to abdicate. The time is long overdue.
The officers involved in the shooting of the two women delivering newspapers should be immediately terminated, with all loss of pay and benefits. Sadly, this will not occur, nor will they be held accountable for their actions--which were unjustified by any standard--in a court of law. We tolerate far too much abuse by these badge monkeys.
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It appears that you have had a bad experience with police officers or part of a generation that disdains authority. The preponderance of law enforcement is honest, straight-up and conscientious when performing their sworn duties.
If there is a problem, it is with the command staff at the highest levels as they are more "finger in the wind" and "thumb up their ass" politicians who actually impede the work of the street patrols.
As for everyone being armed, there are those who should never be allowed to possess firearms: included are criminals, the mentally ill and especially gang members.
As for those who enforce the law, your real problem should be with the politicians who make asinine laws, not those who are sworn to uphold them. Having each officer deciding whether or not to uphold each and every law is crazymaking anarchist chaos.
And, as for the punishment of those officers who opened fire on innocent civilians -- and it happened at least twice with the Torrance Police being the most egregious situation -- the command staff should be held accountable, the officers given psych and performance evaluations and then retained or released if they cannot handle the stress of being an officer in the line of fire. Possibly to be replaced by one of the fine soldiers returning from a combat assignment. Thanks for your comment. -- steve
Posted by: Michael | February 10, 2013 at 01:23 PM
People should be armed to stop bad cops??? R u serious?? Joe citizen is not even the least bit trained to take out a BAD cop!! So the eldery, meek women and men running around thinking they are defending themselves , shoot to stop who they, themselves think is threat?? A country full of George Zi mmermons is exactly what WE all need.
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Kam,
I, too, thought that statement was a little extreme, but let it pass in the spirit of the government tyranny anticipated by the Second Amendment.
But, I wouldn't get too self-congratulatory just yet. It appears that at least seven officers misidentified a vehicle and opened fire on two unarmed citizens. They were part of a detail protecting a high police official mentioned in the Dorner manifesto and apparently flat-out panicked. There was a lack of both command and shooter discipline. Shots were sprayed at the vehicle, many striking other vehicles and homes nearby. The vehicle was the wrong make, model and color -- and it appears that there was no attempt to stop the vehicle or its occupants before the officers opened fire.
So before we speak about training to take out a "cop," trained officers screwed the pooch on this one.
You cannot argue the point that had an unarmed citizen witnessed the suspected two initial murders, there is the possibility that they might have been the next target. Unless they were armed and shot the person shooting others.
As for impugning Zimmerman, it appears that he did what was requested of him. He identified a suspicious person in a crime area. He spoke with the police. He was returning to his vehicle when he was jumped. According to preliminary reports, he did not wave the gun around or even indicate he was armed. It was only when his head was being slammed into the ground, that he thought about the weapon and used it. Justifiable use of force by someone who had a carry permit. He will have his day in court.
I can understand your emotion in writing this piece, but that's what I do not expect from an officer. I want a trained officer to perform a threat assessment and react accordingly.
There are areas in Texas where a large percentage of the population is armed and they do not appear to be plagued with cop wannabe types.
People who have carry permits as well as most responsible people with access to weapons do get some form of training or have some form of experience. They are mostly afraid they will have to use their weapon someday and do not look forward to the experience. In fact, most people respond rather than provoke.
And, by way of closure, anybody can kill anybody else on any given day. It is more than training, there is the matter of luck. Even with body armor and superior firepower, we have seen random rounds fell the best of our soldiers.
Let's hope that neither of us nor any of the readers must make the fatal judgement and pull a weapon on a fellow human being. But if they do, let's hope that good triumphs over evil. -- steve
Posted by: officerkgw | February 09, 2013 at 12:30 AM
I AGREE!
LAPD NEED TO COME FORWARD, THIS HAS GONE ON FAR TOO LONG!
This man has clearly gone past the point of no return, and because of a woman THERESA EVANS.
You officers-who supposedly uphold the law- need to come clean, innocent people are dying because you HAVE ALL TARNISHED A MANS GOOD NAME!
It's a pity we've come to see a goo cop gone bad.
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villan"
Posted by: Danielle | February 08, 2013 at 10:48 PM
lapd should come clean to save lives it seems lapd have had this bad cop thing goin on for years not sayin chris dorner killin people is right but sometimes xstreme shit has to happen to get thoses bad cops off the street i must say i belive chris he said the killin will stop so bad cop lapd step up to the plate and save lives you may get your man but your gona get busted sooner then you think NOT SAYIN ALL COPS ARE BAD THIS IS WHY THE PEOPLE SHOULD BE ARMED TO STOP BADCOPS AND BAD GOVERMENTS
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Dorner is the rare exception -- a rogue cop with a perfectionist and punative viewpoint -- definitely a man with mental issues. I personally believe that much of the problem is with the command staff being too politically correct and kissing the Mayor's ass (Chiefs Beck and Bratton are prime examples). They let gang members go rather than get into that profiling-citizenship thing. There are thousands of good cops trying their level best to protect and serve -- but cut off at the knees by the command staff. Hopefully their will be a 360-degree review after Dorner is taken into custody. And, I do hope is he taken into custody without incident or loss of life so he can get the help he apparently needs. -- steve
Posted by: BILLYLEE janey | February 08, 2013 at 02:02 PM